Thanks for the reply Sam. I actually got out of bed to see if you had replied

Obviously after your recent reply, it seems we, as everyone does, have different expectations on how servers should be admined. Each server has its own rules, each server also has its own way of dealing with pain in the ears. For me, when an admin is not around, a vote ban will have to suffice, if I or anyone else believes that what they were doing deserves longer than just the '24 hour bug' then I will go to the teams forums, armed with replays. In this field, CTRA's report feature saves me or others going to the CTRA forums. If a server admin is about, then of course it gets brought to their attention.

Like most things, no matter which way you choose to admin your server, there will always be pros and cons. With thje knowledge you have, I don't need to list them as I'm sure you know them all .

I would really appreciate those replays. After having this discussion, I can see how I only have a 1 field view as it were. I have done a few thousand miles, but a majority of those have been spent on rather my teams servers or racing on a certain teams servers (I think you know who ) so a small incite on other admining ways, like CTRA and this so called Bosse incident would maybe widen my view a little.

I thank you for the discussion but I really must be off to bed now. I have to be out the door before 8am.

I hope there is no bad blood between us, considering some of the things I have said.

Quote from VoiD :

Being a german I´m very sensitive about the Nazi-word. It´s for sure a very strong word and should not get out of context for gods sake!

VoiD, I do apologize. I obviously forgot where I was or something, I just kind of said it without thinking of the deeper meaning behind that word and the damage it could cause. Again, I am sorry.

I admit, I don't play on CTRA very much at all. In fact, I don't even need to look at my stats, because are know there barely is any. But I have done some laps, and I have spent most of those few laps being rammed off the road. I also spent a week with someone who plays non-stop on CTRA. I may not have driven there, but I have watched someone race there pretty much all day, every day for a week. He is a high flyer, and I watched 8/10 races being wrecked by an idiot.

Quote from SamH :

How much time have you spent using CTRA?

Very little, racing. But I do have a well enough knowledge to steer clear knowing I will be taken out.

Quote from SamH :

How much with the reporting system?

Compared to the racing I've done there. A lot. Compared to the hardcore fan boys, pretty much zero.

Quote from SamH :

Is there some problem with the way that the reporting system works? Does it fall short? If so, in what way?

Your reporting system is all well and good, but talk about locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. That racer could be on the same server all night, causing the havoc all night till an admin bans them. Most servers have plain and simple admining techniques. Vote kick/ban, admins policing the server and so on. I understand you guys n' gals have lives, a job (well, Sam doesn't he is working full bore on CTRA) family and so on, but don't the other admins of other servers?

Quote from SamH :

I'm curious.. in what way do you feel that we lack in the enforcement department? It seems extraordinary, to me, that with the system we've created and deployed, someone can actually believe that we are lacking in the rule enforcement department.

This whole thread is full of claims of the above lacking. 95% of my post in this thread are based on what I have read, the other 5% is what I know from my own experience.

Quote from VoiD :

Someone got banned two days after because of two reports from that day...

This is part of what my post is about. 2 days to ban someone?! Come on Sam, 2 days is a long time for a wrecker or general idiot to carry on doing what they are doing. 2 hours is an annoying amount of time, but 2 days is edging towards taking the mick. VoiD even put a thumbs up after it, after reading his other post, I dont think it was sarcasm, but he obviously seems quite pleased with the order of service he has received. Me? Doesn't do it for me to be honest. Hence, I'm not on your server, and why I'm posting.

Quote from SamH :

Is there something to your statement, or is it just some more rhetoric?

Please Sam, I really hope you don't see this as a dig to you, CTRA, UKCT or anything you or UKCT has done for the LFS community, because it really isn't. I love, despite my comments, what you have done for the community.
But I am a firm believer in respect. Respect goes a long way, further than friendship, you can hate someone, but you can respect them. You can disagree with everything that person believes in, but you can still respect them more than anyone else you know. As the saying goes, respect isn't bought, it's given.

I have a huge amount of respect for you Sam, I like you as well, I don't dislike you at all. I also have a huge amount of respect to anyone who does any behind the scenes work on the CTRA system. I would like some kind of respect from you. You don't know me from Adam, but just an ounce of respect is all it takes.*

Like I said earlier, I would love to join Redline Racing. I enjoy racing in the FOX and the FBM. They host many servers that I enjoy racing on. No dis-respect to the CTRA Single Seater server, but I would rather race not win points for a license. If the chance arose, I would like to join Redline Racing. But then, any respect for me that anyone had would disappear right in front of my eyes and after reading some of your posts, whatever respect you do have for me would be gone in an instant. In actual fact this would probably stop me joining Redline Racing. They seem to be hated for enforcing their rules with a punch. Yet, have a report system that takes 2 days to ban someone (give or take) and you get the utmost respect from every man and his dog.

I hope, for my sake that you can see past this as "just another rant/dig/moan" because it isn't. I hope that you see the real meaning behind it.

*After reading this back, it sounds like I am moaning you don't pay me any respect. I am not. You have not really been given the chance to show me any respect, so like I said, this also isn't a moan.

Mucho respeto, Sam. Mucho respeto.

Last edited by The General Lee, Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:06.

It's almost funny. Redline seem to have the worst reputation on here for doing everything that everybody has asked or spoken about.

On Redline Racing servers, you get banned if you cause an accident and don't apologize. They will go away and check the replay for a good 5/10 minutes so they know exactly what happened and who was at fault.

The rules at Redline are enforced at the highest level, yet people moan their asses off at that?! "I got banned for no reason" When I was infact in the same race and I saw everything they done.

People need to work out if they want strongly enforced rules, or slack rules. They moan at the ones that are enforced 100% then moan about the ones that are not enforced.

This may seem pointless (as everything apart from CTRA is ) but the one reason I have not joined the Redline team yet is because I know my reputation (if I have one) will be left in tatters because of the team I wouldn't mind joining if the opportunity arrived. Yet, if I sold websites, I would join UKCT/CTRA and be given a God like status. Yet, in the world of wreckers and general idiots in this race sim of ours, I would be looked down on if I joined Redline, who enforce their rules with a punch, but I would be looked up on if I join UKCT/CTRA, who quite clearly lack in the enforcing rules department.

Justice? I think not.

Last edited by The General Lee, Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:28.

Quote from Osco :

I think you should quit the fag comments, especially after posting in the 'post your face' topic

ROFLMAO!

Quote from Osco :

vids ok too?
clicky here

Short back and sides please.

They get cash if they advertise. Hence why they keep coming.

*cough* PixelCarStyle.com *cough*

Oh damn! I came to the wrong forums. I thought I came to LFSforum.net not YouTubeTalk.com

Edit: Oh, I am at the right place. Odd.

Currently: I am doing temporary work in all sorts of different places. Each week, sometimes month, my line of work differs. A few weeks back I was working in a block works, easy work, just watching bricks go past while listening to the radio and reading The Sun Last week I was working at Business Post unloading the lorries contents onto a conveyor belt from 2am-9am. That was a lot harder than the brick stuff.

I will carry on doing the temporary stuff until I pass my driving test, then I have been arranged a job with Ross and Roberts Ltd as an enforcement officer, or bailiff to you and me.

Manual clutch and I haven't look back.

Auto-clutch (unless you can't afford a G25) is for sissies.

Only in England and maybe other places.

Stop being such a communist.

The "eating BMW's" decal made me lol

Good luck.

P.S..Its Almost not Almoust.

Quote from Rish :

threw me off a bit with the first one but

Fairytail of New york by the Pogues

CORRECT!!

Quote from Lateralus :

Christ, you've gotta be kidding me.

In America maybe

Correct.

First 2 pictures?

Quote from Rish :

Call here a taxi, dont literally call her a taxi but you know what i mean!

"Hi hunni, I locked my keys in my car"

"You f*cking taxi!!"

Easy peasy

I got:

1. A t-shirt that reads "G_ F_CK Y__RS_LF - Would you like to buy a vowel?"
   
2. Calvin Klein boxers
   
3. fcuk deodorant and shower gel
   
4. Lonsdale hoody
   
5. Richard Hammond auto-bio
   
6. The Godfather framed poster
   
7. Diesel - Fuel for Life
   
8. & a few extra things

This year was a lot different to me. All year I have been able to buy pretty much what I want, when I want. - Sounds spoilt, but it's with my money.

This year, for me, wasn't about what I go, but what others around me got. Seeing my mothers face when she opened tickets to spend a week in New York (she is a big Sex in the City fan :shrug and my Dad's face when he got a portable video/music/web browser thing was great to see. I am just about to leave to enjoy a big family meal with the whole family.

Happy Holidays everybody.

Don't kill me please...

*Makes pathetic "aaaah" noise.*

Merry Christmas everybody. May Santa bring you all you wanted. John Lennon and Yoko Ono weren't right this year, but it shouldn't be long now.

Have one for me! Except Sir. Runner as he has to drive naughty naughty.

Give us a clue...what does the Irish flag symbolize?

I had made a good one hopeing to reactivate this thread, but you already did it

Nothing?

Just kill them like you said you would...

Quote from Exile R :

Touge. heh makin this post from my new ps3.

Great. Now go away.

Not sure, just make sure I'm not in it went you try to find out

That car was restricted by 45% so I don't know how your SuperCharged Mini would do